hey...check out tommy igoes groove essential poster and dvd...theres a whole section on world rythms there...useful stuff
So I am tired of different people telling me, thats not baio, thats songo, or thats not salsa, or whatever. So lately I have been doing lots of research to correctly identify each type of latin/afro-cuban music and the groove that goes with it. This also includes the basslines that would best go with each groove. In my research I rember reading that Salsa, Mambo or whatever is determined by the tempo. I had never heard this before, is this true, and if so, does anyone know what the tempos for each type would be? Any help or links to websites or anything is greatly appreciated. I want to really figure this out!! Come on you latin kings jump on this !!!
hey...check out tommy igoes groove essential poster and dvd...theres a whole section on world rythms there...useful stuff
You're better off getting a book or two from your local music store. That way you can keep it as a reference. It would take too long to get into detail here....
I recommend "Afro-Cuban Rhythms for Drumset" and "Brazilian Rhythms for Drumset" as a start.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ February 03, 2005 08:47 AM: Message edited by: cjbdrm ]</font>
Someone who tells you a a Songo is not a Baiao is right. Even though there might be similarities, cuban and brazilian rhythms are very different. They have rules and fundamentals that must be learned first before breaking them. And when you throw in americanized rhythms: Mambo, ballroom rhumba or even salsa which means all and nothing (cubans just hate that term); it becomes confusing. Of course there are books and DVDs, but I'd seek a teacher which has thourough knowledge and experience with these styles.
The Chuck Silverman site/stuff is a very good suggestion. There's a forum where he answers questions. He even offers accompanied study trips to Cuba for a couple of weeks to go to the source; now also in Brazil. I am still very tempted of going. Think about it, instead of just going to Cuba and do nothing on the beach, you can combine it with learning music; great idea!!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">People frequently play samba or other Brazilian rhythms with an afro-cuban feel. That sounds strange, at least for me, a Brazilian. Another mistake is play samba in 4/4, when indeed it must be played in 2/4. If you play it in 4/4, it probably will sound like a funk groove with a samba bass drum. My sugestion is to take lessons, buy books and listen to authentic music, from Cuba and/or Brazil, in order to get their vocabulary. There are typical accents and syncopations that you must be aware of.Originally posted by Tombo 7/4:
Someone who tells you a a Songo is not a Baiao is right. Even though there might be similarities, cuban and brazilian rhythms are very different. They have rules and fundamentals that must be learned first before breaking them. And when you throw in americanized rhythms: Mambo, ballroom rhumba or even salsa which means all and nothing (cubans just hate that term); it becomes confusing. Of course there are books and DVDs, but I'd seek a teacher which has thourough knowledge and experience with these styles.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ February 05, 2005 09:19 PM: Message edited by: Navega ]</font>
In addition to all the other great advice, it goes without saying listen to some traditional Latin music from different regional areas to learn the classic rythms.
In addition to all the other great advice, it goes without saying listen to some traditional Latin music from different regional areas to learn the classic rythms.
Go an get the books from Ed Uribe, he has one of Brazilian music, and the other from afrocuban music, and both are exelent.
I have seen a lot of books but those are the most complete and accurate sources that I know, IMHO.
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